Listened https://open.spotify.com/episode/2qHwylnubhc8L8pzDV53p4 from open.spotify.com

November 30, 2023 at 04:36PM: listened to “Flying Cars & Pilotless Planes with NASA Engineer, Wendy Okolo, PhD.” by StarTalk Radio. Nov 28.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2qHwylnubhc8L8pzDV53p4 (https://www.frederickcalica.com/?p=3352452)